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Pitch counts 'encouraging mediocrity'

By Jerry Crasnick
ESPN.com

Monday, July 27, 2009

For those who think the pitch count is a relatively new phenomenon, Tom Seaver provides evidence to the contrary. He remembers life in New York in the pre-Watergate days, when Mets pitching coach Rube Walker kept track of workloads in the dugout and even the staff horses had limits. Seaver generally had the latitude to stay in games for 135 pitches. Teammate Jerry Koosman's informal ceiling was closer to 145, and Nolan Ryan might throw 150 or more if necessary. The totals aren't available fro ...

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